Defending Kirk Against The Social Terrorists

Every once in a while, a story comes along regarding “celebrities” which makes me sit up and take notice.  Normally, I’m not the kind of person who goes wild over celebrity gossip and goings-on, but I do get interested and excited when celebrities turn to God, and actually start living out the faith they espouse.

So, when I heard years ago that former “Growing Pains” star Kirk Cameron, interviewed on March 2, 2012’s episode of CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight”, commented about his views of homosexuality and gay marriage, this perked my ears up for several reasons, not the least of which being that as a “person of faith”, I should listen closely to this argument.

I watched the video of the interview portion where Piers actually seemed to set Kirk up for the controversy that was to follow the interview.  Without allowing Kirk to finish answering one question, Piers, in the style of famous British radio journalist John Humphries, launched right into another even more probing question, which might set anyone off kilter.

But Kirk was not dismayed.  When asked what his views on homosexuality were, he defined his view from the biblical perspective: “it’s unnatural, it’s detrimental, and ultimately destructive…”.  He further stated that he did not personally support gay marriage, referring again to the biblical model of marriage as between one man and one woman, and that the concept of marriage was set up by God Himself.

Of course, then, Piers had to keep up his usual “make them spill the beans” prodding he’s famous for, and tried to turn the argument around to the touchy subject of the kids, with the hypothetical “what if one of your six kids says, ‘Dad, bad news – I’m gay’.”  Without hesitating, Kirk stated he’d “have a heart to heart with them” and brilliantly, knocked Piers for a loop (about time he got it back) by saying, “just like you would with your kids”, forcing Piers to almost shame-facedly fess up to his own feeling about homosexuality.

Throughout the rest of this part of the interview, Kirk let out a few other nugget-of-truth zingers such as “just because you feel one way doesn’t mean we should act on everything that we feel.”

An off-balance and dumbfounded Piers completely missed the point when he tried to build a bridge between the statements “telling kids being gay is a sin… is incredibly destructive” and “seven states have legalised [gay marriage]”.  And when Kirk tried to set up the argument about different standards of morality being used to allow legalisation of gay marriage, Piers pulled the old “cut ‘em off” game again and tried to change the conversation back around to the concept that just because seven states have legalised gay marriage, no one should be saying anything against the practice.

It should go without saying that Kirk garnered a small firestorm among fellow celebs, the liberal media, and gay rights activists/terrorists (yes, there are some), for voicing his views.

Here are a few real cerebral remarks from Kirk’s so-called “peers”, and some thoughtful come-backs from yours truly:

– “The Late Late Show” host Craig Ferguson: “Kirk Cameron makes me ashamed to be a failed actor. We don’t all think like that.”  …with emphasis on the “failed” in your case, Craig… even your acting attempt on the Late Late Show is an epic fail, but I digress, don’t I?  It’s obvious you “all” don’t think like that, and that’s the problem.

– “Raising Hope” star Martha Plimpton: “The word “Equality” shows up too much in our founding documents for anyone to pretend it’s not the American way.”  …apparently you failed “paying attention” class, Martha… the topic was not “equality”… it was the practice of homosexuality (as part of a larger discussion of morality in social issues), though Piers would have loved to nailed Kirk onto an “equality” road which Kirk wasn’t willing to walk down.  Oh… and by the way Martha, I invite you to comment on this blog and tell me exactly how many times the word “equality” appears in our “founding documents”, the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States… (here’s a hint: 0)

And, not to be outdone by celebrities, spokesman Herndon Graddick of The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) released what has to be the wildest stretch of the truth I’ve seen since Barack Obama uttered the word “change”:  “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.” {emphasis mine}  And in typical activist-terrorist fashion, he just had to add a juvenile jab, “In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character.”

I’d like to personally challenge Mr. Graddick to actually come up with the definitive proof that the majority of Americans, let alone a majority of “people of faith”, believe that there is nothing morally or religiously wrong with homosexuality, though I’ll take that as a touché, a deliberate stretch of the point based on his wording.  I personally believe the majority of Americans who profess a Jewish or Christian faith (and probably many others) would agree that homosexuals should not be “condemned”, but what Graddick is deliberately both directly omitting and clearly inferring, is that “the majority of Americans think there’s nothing morally or religiously wrong with homosexuality.”  So, I’d really love to know where those statistics are, and if I bet him real money to produce them, I feel very confident I wouldn’t be handing my money over to GLAAD. Besides, in the interview segment, I don’t get the sense that Kirk was actually condemning people because of their sexual orientation, but rather expressing his personal religious view in answer to a probing question.

But this is the crux of the problem with social terrorists (as I like to call them), those people who, in the style of religious terrorists such as radical Islamists, are so fervent for their social point of view that they go out of their way to, in any way possible, condemn and castigate those who hold and publicly express different or alternate viewpoints, and if it causes the “enemy” their physical, emotional, or reputational destruction, so be it. (I could fill another entire blog post with some infamous social terrorists of our modern time, but I won’t take the time here.)

I will say one final thing to Herndon however: Kirk’s character wasn’t dated back in the 1980’s. If you want’ to preach “cultural relevance”, viewing Kirk’s 1980’s character in terms and context of the 1980’s is cultural relevance, right there.

Now, let’s stew for a while on former co-star Alan Thicke, who quite ignorantly stated on Twitter, “I’m getting him some new books. The Old Testament simply can’t be expected to explain everything.”

Alan, and anyone else for that matter, who want to claim the Old Testament is out of step with modern reality, you asked for it… here’s your Bible lesson for today.

The words of GOD, through Sha’ul (Paul), found in the NEW Testament, in Sha’ul’s letter to the Romans. I back up a bit in the context so that we can understand why God is angry:

“What is revealed is God’s anger from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people who in their wickedness keep suppressing the truth; because what is known about God is plain to them, since God has made it plain to them. For ever since the creation of the universe his invisible qualities- both his eternal power and his divine nature- have been clearly seen, because they can be understood from what he has made. Therefore, they have no excuse; because, although they know who God is, they do not glorify him as God or thank him. On the contrary, they have become futile in their thinking; and their undiscerning hearts have become darkened. Claiming to be wise, they have become fools! In fact, they have exchanged the glory of the immortal God for mere images, like a mortal human being, or like birds, animals or reptiles!

This is why God has given them up to the vileness of their hearts ‘lusts, to the shameful misuse of each other’s bodies. They have exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, by worshipping and serving created things, rather than the Creator- praised be he for ever. Amen. This is why God has given them up to degrading passions; so that their women exchange natural sexual relations for unnatural; and likewise the men, giving up natural relations with the opposite sex, burn with passion for one another, men committing shameful acts with other men and receiving in their own persons the penalty appropriate to their perversion. In other words, since they have not considered God worth knowing, God has given them up to worthless ways of thinking; so that they do improper things. They are filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and vice; stuffed with jealousy, murder, quarrelling, dishonesty and ill-will; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God; they are insolent, arrogant and boastful; they plan evil schemes; they disobey their parents; they are brainless, faithless, heartless and ruthless. They know well enough God’s righteous decree that people who do such things deserve to die; yet not only do they keep doing them, but they applaud others who do the same.” (Romans 1:18-32, Complete Jewish Bible) {underline emphasis mine}

Pretty plain, isn’t it? It definitely reads like God has the same view of homosexuality in the NEW Testament, as in the Old, Alan.

God is angry because people keep suppressing the truth, and allow all sorts of social ills to occur. They not only allow it to happen, but applaud others who enable and practice social ills (sound familiar?). They think they’re intelligent, socially responsible, ethically neutral, and politically correct, but God says they’re basically idiots. They can see all the things God has created, but they choose to worship the iPhone instead of the one who made everything that made the iPhone in the first place. They know the truth in their minds and hearts, but fight against it, proving themselves to be stupid and ruthless in the face of eternity.

So why did Sha’ul (Paul) put the crystal-clear reference to homosexuality smack dab in the middle of this rant against “them”, the unrepentant sinners?  Clearly to make a point that this is just one of many ways people worship the created instead of the creator… and let’s not forget that as a hedonistic society, homosexuality was rampant in Rome of that day, and Sha’ul did not want “new” Christians to think that behaving that way was not a problem with God.

But, just to be fair, let’s not ignore the beginning of the next chapter:

“Therefore you have no excuse, whoever you are, passing judgment; for when you judge someone else, you are passing judgment against yourself; since you who are judging do the same things he does. We know that God’s judgment lands impartially on those who do such things; do you think that you, a mere man passing judgment on others who do such things, yet doing them yourself, will escape the judgment of God?” (Romans 2:1-3, Complete Jewish Bible)

It’s pretty clear that those who try to judge LGBT people for the sin of homosexuality are just as guilty as the one they presume to judge for the sin. Why? Because in the eyes of God, everyone’s in the same boat: everyone sinned and keeps sinning (which is precisely why so many people don’t want to hear about God – they don’t want to feel that they are doing something wrong). In reality, homosexuality is no greater or lesser of a sin in God’s eyes as murder, rape, or 5-fingering a five-cent piece of candy from a store shelf. So I cannot get my preachin’ finger out and force anyone to stop being gay, just as I can’t get my preachin’ finger out and force anyone to stop lying, cheating, or stealing. God doesn’t hold us accountable for the sins of others; He only holds us accountable for our own sins. God holds us accountable for accepting and living worthy of the gift of salvation He gave us in Yeshua (Jesus).

And right here is the rub between true faith and the social terrorists. Social terrorists can’t stand that people who profess faith will not condemn LGBT people but rather try to, as the saying goes, “love them into the Kingdom of God”, so they lie about people of faith, trying to turn their professions of their faith into “hate speech.” Oh, how I hate that.

If I had a megaphone, I’d shout this to Tracey Gold and all those other social terrorists who try to persecute Christians for publicly speaking their beliefs, yet all the while demanding they have their own “freedom of speech” uncontested and commented against:


OK, I’ll put my megaphone down now.

Before saying anything else, let me be perfectly clear here. My wife and I, through a business relationship, have met and maintain good friendships with many gay and lesbian people. These people are “good people”, some are very religious in their overall worldview, and all of them have deep and abiding loves for their significant others and their friends. We have come to be very close with a good number of people in the LGBT community, and we have no problem communicating with them sharing with them, hanging out with them, or publicly proclaiming that we do. These people, through personal communications, Facebook, and other ways, know our moral and religious viewpoint, and have never once slammed us for our views. They know that morally we may not approve of the practice of homosexuality, but by the same token, they also know we would never feign to judge any of them for their decision to live in that “lifestyle”. Ultimately we all know that we can’t “change” the other, and we don’t try to. As far as myself and my wife are concerned, we simply try to live our beliefs and values, knowing that only God can change someone. Realistically, both we and our friends know that in the eyes of God, we are just as much sinners as they are, or anyone else is.

The problem is the sin, and that’s what Kirk Cameron was really talking about in the Piers Morgan interview. The phrase “love the sinner, hate the sin” applies to all of us, no matter what sin we commit. No one is without sin, so the goal is to admit the sin and allow God to change us… and if that means changing from a particular lifestyle, or giving up a particular habit or way of thinking about something, then we should be willing to do that. In the end, which is worse: to trust God to change us, or to keep living in sins that we know God hates, and risk eternity in Hell?

And, by the way, yes… this applies to everyone: straight, gay, white, black, common and celeb.